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par contact.lecteurs Lun 1 Aoû 2005 - 2:42




Fed , or et $ , historique et perspectives

Cette file regroupe, de notre point de vue du moins, un "best of" des thèses traitant de :

LA DETTE, L'INFLATION, LA FED, la gigantesque escroquerie monétaire mondiale, la destruction programmée du Dollar, la suprématie des métaux précieux et des actifs tangibles sur la fiat money...après avoir lu ces précieux travaux, vous comprendrez pourquoi Hard Investor est bien le site "anti-fiat money"...vous comprendrez ce qu'on vous cache...Mieux, vous comprendrez POURQUOI on vous le cache...

Lisez, Digérez, puis Enregistrez, Imprimez, Mailez, Gardez, Expliquez, Traduisez, Diffusez ces documents...Bref; LUTTEZ...!

Ou alors arrêtez de chouiner, vous êtes complices...!



Avertissement préalable :

Le principe d'indépendance absolue des banques centrales vis à vis du pouvoir politique (défendue ardamment dans le second de ces deux magnifiques articles de synthèse) est, certes, un gage de stabilité et d'interdiction de toute dérive inflationniste ... MAIS...car il y a là un MAIS (et il est de taille) ...cette indépendance à tout crin ne serait pas "QUE" vertueuse...elle poserait en effet DEUX QUESTIONS FONDAMENTALES ... auxquelles il n'est guère aisé de prétendre apporter une réponse définitive...



1) Par qui et comment serait garantie la probité des membres composant
les comités de direction des Banques Centrales "indépendantes"?...
du reste pourquoi ne pas les appeler Banques Nationales?

Ne serait-il pas terriblement dangereux de perdre de vue le fait que
par définition, si elles sont "indépendantes"... elles ne dépendent pas non plus du pouvoir politique (ce qui est bien la moindre des choses puisque c'est le but ultime de cette démonstration, néanmoins brillante, que de prohiber toute tentation hyperinflationniste au sein des instituts d'émission).

Alors moi, je veux bien...mais...
Qui les nomme?
Pour quelle durée?
Qui peut les virer?

La détention, hors de tout contrôle, d'un pouvoir aussi exhorbitant pose au moins autant de questions quelle en résoud...sauf à nier que le pouvoir corrompt et que l'Histoire est jalonnée d'exemples qui accréditent cette thèse.


2) Et c'est la conséquence directe du 1...

Comment appeler un régime qui, quelles que soient les conditions économiques (ou stratégiques) du moment, ne se donne pas les moyens (pardon: s'interdit les moyens) d'y faire face, et de tenir compte, fût-ce de manière temporaire, en matière économique des choix des peuples appelés aux urnes ? Et pourquoi continuer à organiser des élections si les élus ne peuvent rien changer, rien entreprendre?

Comment prétendre qu'un gouvernement ferait encore de la "POLITIQUE"
avec une confiscation de ses 2 leviers essentiels que constituent d'une part, le privilège régalien de battre monnaie (le contrôle de la masse monétaire) et, d'autre part, le niveau de refinancement des banques (les taux d'intérêt à court terme, appelés justement Taux "ADMINISTRES") et qui, pour le coup, ne seraient plus administrables...en tout cas plus par l'administration de l'Etat...(vous m'opposerez que c'est déjà le cas depuis Maastricht et que les orthodoxes de la BCE ne sont pas élus non plus...et vous aurez malheureusement raison, mais le constater est une chose, et celà ne signifie en rien qu'on souhaite que cet état de fait perdure).

Etes-vous certains qu'il puisse encore mériter le nom de Démocratie?


La vertu, c'est sain...mais stimuler une économie par l'émission de crédits productifs " à la Colbert" (dès lors qu'on s'entoure de la précaution fondamentale que ces émissions seront dédiées EXCLUSIVEMENT à des travaux d'infrastructure et à des projets scientifiques de telle sorte qu'elles ne soient pas inflationnistes) c'est quand même le meilleur moyen de créer à la fois massivement des emplois (pour le court terme) et les garanties d'une productivité à son tour génératrice de croissance et d'emploi (pour le long terme).


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on relira aussi avec interet le Ferdinand Lips , posté sur feu actigold :
les guerres de l'or


chinois chinois chinois

http://www.horizons-et-debats.ch/27/27_13.htm

en savoir plus sur F Lips : ( en bas de page )


http://www.fame.org/goldwars.htm ou en résumé :


Mr. Ferdinand Lips, Chairman
Top-Gold Fund

Ferdinand Lips was born 1931 in Zurich and has more than 50 years of experience in banking and finance. Until 1987 he was a managing director of Rothschild Bank AG in Zurich and until 1998 was CEO of Bank Lips AG in Zurich. In 1993 he was the No. 2 mutual fund manager worldwide with his in-house Precious Metals Fund (+121%). In December 2000 Lips became a founding member of Lion Capital Group AG, Zurich, and he currently serves on its Board of Directors as a senior adviser.

Lips also has more than 30 years of experience in the gold mining industry. In 1994 he participated in the takeover battle of the Rand Mines Group and the "Randgold Revolution" that changed the face of South Africa’s gold mining industry.

Lips served as a non-executive director in companies such as Randgold & Exploration Limited and Durban Roodeport Deep Ltd. in Johannesburg and until 2004 was a member of the board of Randgold Resources Limited in Jersey, Channel Islands.

He currently serves on the board of Aflease Gold and Uranium Resources Ltd., Johannesburg, a junior gold and uranium company, and is a member of the advisory board of J-Pacific Gold Mines Ltd., Vancouver, and Desert Sun Mining Corp., Toronto and Vancouver. He also has been managing the Top-Gold Fund since inception in February 2003 and is acting as its chairman.

Lips has written several texts and books on investments and gold, including "Gold Wars," released in the United States in 2002, and an expanded German translation, "Die Gold-Verschwörung," published in November 2003 and now in its fourth printing. He was a founding member of the Swiss Association of Security Analysts and is a trustee of the Foundation for the Advancement of Monetary Education (FAME) in New York. He has widely lectured on monetary history, bonds, and stock markets.


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2-l'escroquerie monétaire mondiale

par Eberhard Hamer, professeur à l’institut des classes moyennes de Hanovre

http://www.horizons-et-debats.ch/31/31_21.htm


en français , ça vaut le coup +++

chinois chinois chinois

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un peu d'humour ...vache r.ire mdr pour dérider ce délicat sujet ...



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en complément



et toujours en français , sur Sandro 'site :

chinois clap clap lion chinois






La FED...On m'aurait menti?La réserve "fait des râles"



http://pageperso.aol.fr/Gsandro934774017/La+FED.doc


et notamment :

-OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE :

http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve.shtml


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et pour terminer ,la série française , une cerise à table ! sur le gateau !
chinois chinois chinois

The United States Is In Deep Doodoo!

excellente traduction en français de Oscar Blais

http://www.hardinvestor.net/viewtopic.forum?t=433


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par contact.lecteurs Lun 1 Aoû 2005 - 2:43

et enfin en anglais cette fois ci :

1-SCOOP Midas, qui détient vraiment la FED ?
les porteurs d'action ?
eh non puisque ce fait ne donne aucun droit , contrairement
à une entreprise privée ..

oula ...qu'est ce à dire ???
la FED n'est donc pas une entreprise privée au sens commun du terme donc ..
ce n'est pas non plus une propriété du gouvernement ...oula ..

je vous laisse dénicher la conclusion en lisant tres attentivement ce topo de Ed Steer, diecteur du GATA


http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/steer/2004/1014.html

*liens complémentaires : cliquez sur les 2 liens en rouge


'T' MINUS TEN

THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND ,A SECOND LOOK AT FEDERAL RESERVE
interview de l'auteur par Puplava, ici
et traduction française, ici


2-Who REALLY owns the Federal Reserve?
How did it originate and how has it evolved? Is it a good thing for the people of the United States or not?

April 2, 2004
with
Sol Palha & Janice Dorn, Antal E. Fekete, Alan Lunt, Chuck Cornell,
Art Soukup, Gale Bullock, and Janice Dorn


“Contrarian Round Table” contributors discuss THE FED.

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2004/contrarian/April.html


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MessageSCOOP : la fameuse PPT appartient à Goldman Sachs
par marie Mer 20 Sep 2006 - 17:36

en complément de nos files publiques sur la PPT

http://www.hardinvestor.net/viewtopic.forum?t=812

http://www.hardinvestor.net/viewtopic.forum?t=1668

http://www.hardinvestor.net/viewtopic.forum?t=5011

SCOOP : la PPT ( alias plonge protection team ) ou Contreparty risk management group
( CRMG)

- a un site internet officiel
- dont le propriétaire du nom de domaine n'est autre que Goldman Sachs !!



PPT ou Contreparty risk management group ... CRMG.. à en croire ce texte et c'est facile à vérifier en allant sur le lien indiqué ..
le net site de la PPT renvoie chez goldman sachs !!


source Midas:

This is no stretch. "Counterparty, as in Counterparty Risk Management Group (CRMPG), as in Goldman Sachs…

Hi Bill,
As to the CRMPG, it appears to be GS entirely. I tried to access it as indicated below, and lo-and-behold what did I get -- a forward to the GS homepage.

Next I went ahead check who the domain holder is, and - bingo, how come you guessed it? - it is nobody other than Goldman "Hannibal Lecter" Sachs.

Of course, they can always claim to provide a minor service (hosting the site and providing the domain name) to the (supposed) "group", but since
their reports address the chairman of GS directly the one-and-the-same theory is much more credible.

Hi Bill, here are the screenshots one more time. (My Outlook places them into the attachment section.) Basically it is a technical view of the matter.
If you enter the URL http://www.crmpolicygroup.org/docs/ one would expect to be on the CRMPG site in the docs directory. But, since it basically is a mapping
the directory is not there and what you get instead is a link to the Goldman Homepage, not the CRMPG one.
EB

(This is strange. The link above does not connect. However, if you do it manually … punch it into the top of your computer, it hits up fine)

For more on this type of stuff, please go to:

You Need to Know What GATA Knows by James Turk

http://www.kitco.com/commentary/turk.htm/



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test concluant ..

en copiant collant ce lien ou en cliquant dessus , ( et ce que ce soit sous navigateur i exploreur ou firefox )

http://www.crmpolicygroup.org/docs/

voila ce que ça donne !!




2eme test

http://www.crmpolicygroup.org/

ce lien la fonctionne normalement ...
semble donc qu'il y ait un bug chez eux pour le 1er lien cité ... qui révéle le pot aux roses !! r.ire

sans compter que le nom de domaine est bien la propriété de ... goldman sachs !! comme le souligne l'auteur du texte cité.








et avec ça, en plus , et pour ceux qui nient toujours son existence .. on découvre que la PPT a un site officiel !!!

mdr



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par marie Mer 20 Sep 2006 - 23:41

les commentaires sur cette "affaire " qui montre à l'envie , la collusion notoire entre des interêts d"état et des interêts purements privés !!

on en avait déja une id avec la FED qui n'a de fédérale que le nom ... mais ici Murphy nous donne une liste officielle des membres de la Contreparty Risk Management policy Group ... où vous retrouverez tout nos joyeux drilles du cartel !! caballas

- G Sachs en tête avec plusieus membres
-City Group
-JP Morgan ( plusieurs membres également )
-Deutsche Bank
-Lehman Brothers
-Merrill Lynch

pas une bullion banque ne manque à l'appel !! affraid

la conclusion de Murphy , si elle choque certains d'entre vous , est pourtant évidente ...
un gouvernement qui "intervient" de la sorte choquant et spollie ses propres citoyens , en collusion-association dissimulée avec des interêts purement privés, et dans le but unique d'engraisser les dits interêts ...
tout cela porte un nom et une signature : faschisme ... et il vous explique et vous démontre cela en détail

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pour lire la version française google , cliquer ici

source Midas / édito de Bill Murphy


September 20 - Gold $580.20 up $3.20 - Silver $11 up 20 cents

Fascism, The Counterparty Risk Management Group, And Nuance

The gold and silver trading is getting wilder by the day. I suggest it is because the bad guys are having trouble coming up with enough physical gold to meet the surging demand at these prices. Silver too. Both are trading as if someone is trying to keep an inflated ball under water.

So far so good on the potential of price explosions in both, as gold and silver did not make new lows and closed today well above them.

The gold open interest fell 624 contracts to 325,852 and the silver open interest dropped 106 contracts to 100,314.

Same ole, same ole by the end of the day. Gold rocketed up to $586.50 at one point. However, those gains were squashed. The powers running the US financial markets have EVERYTHING going their way at this point.

At least silver has clawed its way back to $11.

This stuff on the incestuous relationship between the Counterparty Risk Management Group and Goldman Sachs is fascinating and extremely telling. A book could be written on this subject. Getting right to a key point: you have a group of insiders working the markets over in concert, in violation of what our financial market system is supposed to be all about. What is the point of having anti-trust laws in the US when this rogue operation is allowed to operate like they do? Collectively those "in the know" are making hundreds of billions of dollars and allowed to operate without any oversight. They have a license to steal from the general public … all under the guise they are assisting the public.

Let me take the other side of the trade, saying their activities are keeping the markets from hurting the public. Fine. Then let everyone know that we have a "Fascist" (a much used term these days) government … that our markets are not freely traded … and let everyone compete on a level playing field as to how our financial system in the US REALLY works these days.

What does Fascism mean? For one thing, since it is what they are mostly about these days, the establishment loves to use that word, along with the word conspiracy, to antagonize and influence the public against anyone who points our their real modus operandi.

"Fascism is a radical, political, ideology that combines elements of Corporatism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, Militarism, anti-Anarchism, anti-communism, and anti-Liberalism."

Here is yet another definition, furnished by Sarge:

"Any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism."


Sound like the Bush Administration to you? (When it comes to the gold rig, the Democrats were just as egregious).

OK, some of our fellow Republican Café members won’t like the analogy of their political leaders as operating Fascists. Go a step further then and review the 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism by Dr. Lawrence Britt, which can be found here:

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/facism.htm#14fascism

Here is number nine:

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

That is exactly what the Counterparty Risk Management Group is all about, especially when you realize they work closely with the Fed and Exchange Stabilization Fund.

That is bad enough; however, when you read the other 13 it is no stretch to equate MOST of them with what we have going on in America today. The only difference in a number of those 13 as far as the Bush Administration is concerned is nuance and degree.

Now to some specifics how veteran gold investors and the general public have been ripped off over the years and what the GATA camp has been fighting against and taking on.

Back in 2001 Reg Howe sued The Gold Cartel. Reg versus the defendants in that law suit:

Reginald H. Howe, ) Plaintiff, ) ) v.

) )Bank for International Settlements, ) Alan Greenspan, ) William J. McDonough, ) J.P. Morgan & Co. Inc., ) Chase Manhattan Corp., ) Citigroup, Inc., ) Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., ) Deutsche Bank AG and ) Lawrence H. Summers, ) Secretary of the Treasury, ) Defendants.

Now let us go to the full list of members of the Counterparty Risk Management Group, and their working groups:

http://www.crmpolicygroup.org/docs/CRMPG-II-Ex-I-II.pdf

Toward Greater Financial Stability: A Private Sector Perspective
July 27, 2005 vii

EXHIBIT I

Counterparty Risk Management Policy Group II

E. Gerald Corrigan, Chairman
Managing Director
Office of the Chairman
Goldman, Sachs & Co.

Don M. Wilson III, Vice Chairman
Chief Risk Officer
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

David C. Bushnell, Vice Chairman
Senior Risk Officer
Citigroup Inc.

Policy Group Members

Michael J. Alix


Senior Managing Director
Head of Global Credit Risk Management
Bear, Stearns & Co., Inc.

John G. Macfarlane III
Chief Operating Officer
Tudor Investment Corporation

Dr. Hugo Bänziger
Chief Risk Officer (Credit & Operational Risk)
Deutsche Bank

W. Allen Reed
President & Chief Executive Officer
General Motors Asset Management

Craig W. Broderick
Managing Director
Chief Credit Officer
Head of Credit, Market & Operational Risk
Goldman, Sachs & Co.

Edward J. Rosen, Esq.
Partner
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP

Scott C. Evans
Executive Vice President
Chief Investment Officer
TIAA-CREF

Thomas A. Russo
Vice Chairman and Chief Legal Officer
Lehman Brothers

Douglas J. Flint
Group Finance Director
HSBC Holdings plc

David H. Sidwell
Executive Vice President and CFO
Morgan Stanley

Christopher B. Hayward
Managing Director
Head of Holding Company Supervision
Chief Operating Officer - Corporate Risk Management
Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.

Associate Member

Adam Gilbert
Managing Director
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Secretariat

Pawel Adrjan
Associate
Goldman, Sachs & Co.

Pierre-Hugues Verdier, Esq.
Associate
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP

__________________________________________

The members of CRMPG II wish to thank Manar Zaher of Goldman Sachs for her efforts in support of this project. In addition, we would like to thank Goldman Sachs,

-END-

In many cases these are the same people GATA has gone after for nearly 8 years. Note the chairmanship people and the leaders of this group: Goldman, Morgan and Citi … all defendants in Reg Howe’s lawsuit. What foreign bank is part of the group: Deutsche Bank, ANOTHER defendant in Reg Howe’s lawsuit.

Can the picture be any clearer, especially with what else GATA has brought to the table for so many years?


Specifically, the following is just one example how these "Fascists" are ripping you off. It has to do with how this group employs a few privileged hedge funds to assist their operations. One of them is actually part of the group: Tudor Investment Corporation, an enormous hedge fund founded by one of the great commodity traders of all time, Paul Tudor Jones, who began his career trading cotton futures. How would you like to run a hedge fund and be in "the deal," getting the skinny on what is good for the American public. Do you think you could make a few bucks? Any question how Goldman Sachs makes billions every quarter, much of it from their trading operations?

OK, to a specific. The Tudor Jones people are close to the Moore Capital people, founded by another super trader, Zach Bacon. Moore Capital has been cited often in this column. An example:

September 24 (2001) - Gold $326.10 up $3.40 - Silver $4.64 up 1 cent

GOLD SURGES!

Massive fund buying surprised The Gold Cartel early on and took gold up nicely, as it reached $328.20 at one point. Moore Capital was also a featured buyer. In years past Moore was known to be the largest hedge fund gold carry trade short.

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Moore Capital and others in on the gold rig, made fortunes with this carry trade, as they could borrow money practically interest free and invest it much higher paying credit instruments, or could use the money to fund their own operations.

Back to the culprits again, especially Citi, GS and the US Government (the term Fascism is not an over the top description at all). Look at what Frankfurter Allegeine Zeitung (the WSJ of Germany) reported years ago:

November 2 (2000) - Spot Gold $264.40 up 70 cents - Spot Silver $4.69 down 6 cents

Now, the big picture overview for Goldman Sach's gold trading over the past years:

First, the comment by former Goldman Sachs CEO and former US Treasury Secretary, Robert Rubin as brought to our attention by newsletter writer Jay Taylor:

"Last May I interviewed Congressman Ron Paul, M.D. and member of the House Banking Committee for my newsletter, J Taylor's Gold & Technology Stocks. In a letter to Congressman Paul, Bob Rubin said the following.

"We have long recognised that helping prevent extreme market fluctuations from generating self-fulfilling losses of confidence that could unnecessarily destabilise the real economy is an appropriate objective of government policy. We also recognise that government action is often required to create the conditions for markets to work at their best."

Then, we have Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan's infamous quote before the US Congress:

"Central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise."

Follow that up with the Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung story expose of the Citibank/hedge fund/Robert Rubin capping of the Euro at 90 after the recent coordinated G-7 central intervention to try and halt its slide:

FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--The European Central Bank's intention to intervene in the foreign exchange market, together with the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Bank of Japan and other central banks of the Group of Seven leading industrial countries, was known several hours ahead of the operation, market participants in Frankfurt said, German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung reported Thursday.

According to the paper, a leak in one of the central banks outside the euro zone prompted Citibank, a unit of Citigroup Inc. (C), on behalf of a U.S. hedge fund, to start buying euros early Friday. The euro rose to slightly above $0.86 in early European trade Friday.

Citibank's subsequent sale of euros was preventing the euro from rising more than slightly above $0.90 during the intervention that started around 1100 GMT, Frankfurt banking sources said, according to the paper. The euro subsequently rose to $0.9040 before falling back to the mid-$0.88s.

Banking sources attributed the leak to a possible connection between the hedge fund, Citibank and the Fed, FAZ said. Robert Rubin, former U.S. Treasury Secretary, is currently Citigroup's co-chairman……. End.

Moore Capital in New York has since been identified by Café sources as the hedge fund that not only was "fed" the information ahead of time, but was instrumental in capping the Euro at 90. Over the past years Midas has reported Moore Capital to be carrying the largest hedge fund "gold carry" trade positions of all.

It would appear that Rubin initiated the same fraudulent type trading activity in the Euro, via government "Fed" information spread to a bullion bank and their clients, as he has done in the gold market since late 1994.

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There it is … all laid out for you and anyone else who wants the truth and what a good portion of the US financial markets are all about.

Fascism, alive and well in the US, a stretch? Don’t think so.

Funny enough, look what just hit the tape regarding Amaranth, the hedge fund disaster:

14:06 Citigroup may buy stake in Amaranth - Bloomberg, citing sources
Bloombergalso reports that Citadel and JPM will take over Amaranth trades, which appears to refer to the energy portfolio as reported earlier by CNBC.



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